. >> oh, i bet you haven't. michigan's republican governor rick snyder might support a similar election scheme in his state. snyder thinks real locating electoral votes could be done in a thoughtful way. nothing about this is thoughtful. it's strategic. this isn't about fixing a broken system. it's about republicans giving their party an edge in 2016. i'm joined tonight for the conversation by joan walsh, editor at large for the salon and also bob shrum. great to have you both with us tonight. joan, what do you make of this? is this a policy surrender by republicans, they have to do this to win? >> yeah that. >> know they are on a course of demographic extinction, ed. 90% of their voters are white. their voters are older. and rather than change their policies and think about how to really reach the new america that is emerging, they decided they're going to change the voter, not change the policies. now, we saw after 2008 and president obama's election, we saw 38 states, republicans in 38 states introduce some k